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Top 10 Largest ProTracker modules ever made!
« on: March 19, 2012, 13:06:36 »
Just curious about this one.  I thought my entry for Revision might possibly be one of the largest (1.2 meg) but it seems that a tune call 185 Amiga Acid is larger (around 1.3 meg)

So what are the largest protracker tunes ever made?

SELECT TOP 10 *
FROM Amp
WHERE Format = 'ProTracker'
ORDER BY FileSize DESC


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Re: Top 10 Largest ProTracker modules ever made!
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2012, 17:00:20 »
Hi h0ffman. I also did a pt mod with 1,2 MB of size. Would be nice to know if mods exists >1,5 MB. Also if samples larger then 64k used.

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Re: Top 10 Largest ProTracker modules ever made!
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2012, 17:33:28 »
Biggest 3 protracker mods I have are all by Acechan! :o

Friends Live     1.75mb
Come to Bed    1.71mb
Atlantis            1.70mb

And just for a laugh....

Biggest Impulse Tracker module is 28.3mb
Biggest Fast Tracker module is 26.1mb
Biggest Scream Tracker module is 3.48mb

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Re: Top 10 Largest ProTracker modules ever made!
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2012, 17:09:06 »
Hey,

 As you know, AMP doesn't store real size, only compressed size. Still, might be relevant enough :)
 Here you go for AMP :)

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Sylvain

corona-part2 by Spacebrain (1446646 bytes gzipped)
come on by Cat(PL) (1396656 bytes gzipped)
megamix6-95. by Stef(Sweden) (1371857 bytes gzipped)
Friends Live by Acechan (1365010 bytes gzipped)
megamix3-95 by Stef(Sweden) (1322104 bytes gzipped)
baselove by Ambience (1270900 bytes gzipped)
dancemix2 by Absys (1226706 bytes gzipped)
LSD by Goa Phantasm (1215929 bytes gzipped)
mors lille ole2 by Mr. C (1204088 bytes gzipped)
staying alive by Absys (1192005 bytes gzipped)

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Re: Top 10 Largest ProTracker modules ever made!
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2012, 18:15:46 »
Compressed size doesn`t count. Real size please. :)

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Re: Top 10 Largest ProTracker modules ever made!
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2012, 18:28:54 »
That LSD mod is 2.4mb. Didn't know protracker supported such large samples.

I like how he apologises for "big sizes" and a short version!!  8)

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Re: Top 10 Largest ProTracker modules ever made!
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2012, 18:41:50 »
I'm not surprised, you'd be hard pushed to find an Amiga with more than 2 meg chip ram!

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Re: Top 10 Largest ProTracker modules ever made!
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2012, 22:07:20 »
Yep, Protracker eats some kb Chipram. So the max. size is below 2MB. Max. sample size is 128kb (you have to copy/paste in the editor).

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Re: Top 10 Largest ProTracker modules ever made!
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2012, 23:30:20 »
The 128KB limit on ProTracker sample size is a rather more practical one: in the file format, sample size is stored in a 16 bit word, measured in words (so divided by two).  This gives a maximum of 65,535 words (or 131,070 bytes).  Anything larger physically can't be a ProTracker file.
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Re: Top 10 Largest ProTracker modules ever made!
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2012, 20:41:49 »
Frikin ell. I never knew you could blag protracker to support samples larger than 64k!!!   I'm having that!!!

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Re: Top 10 Largest ProTracker modules ever made!
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2012, 22:01:38 »
well, in theory, you can stack up "nicely":
31 samples of 65534 bytes => 2.031.554 bytes
64 patterns => 65536
-> 2.097.090

Now, I don't think all Protracker version handle more than 64kb sized samples. I know some do, however, so, that doubles the pure sample size. Also, some protracker handle more than 64 individual patterns. In these cases, the absolute total is :
31 sample 131070 bytes => 4.063.170 bytes
128 patterns => 131072
header => 1084
-> 4.195.326 bytes

that's big :)

Oh, and we are not talking about the IFF-like version of mods, here ...

Sylvain

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Re: Top 10 Largest ProTracker modules ever made!
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2012, 22:52:28 »
Asle, you should have been a teacher at school. I would have understood maths with you.  :)

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Re: Top 10 Largest ProTracker modules ever made!
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2012, 10:18:10 »
Practical the max. file size (guessing ~1,8MB) is a bit lower because of PT code/gfx placed in chip-ram. :) However, thats all theory. So what is the largest mod - unpacked - on AMP? Wee still need to know. :P

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Re: Top 10 Largest ProTracker modules ever made!
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2012, 01:44:10 »
Hey,

 You're of course all guessing the MOD would actually come from early Amiga, not talking about those PC tracking generating MODs as well.
 Anyway, I've run some script and have now all the ungzipped sizes. There's indeed some differences :)

LSD by Goa Phantasm -> 2.390.318 bytes
corona-part2 by Spacebrain -> 1.840.824 bytes
Friends Live by Acechan -> 1.748.466 bytes
megamix3-95 by Stef(Sweden) -> 1.651.866 bytes
come on by Cat(PL) -> 1.633.958 bytes
megamix6-95. by Stef(Sweden) -> 1.622.032 bytes
keisha by Sidewinder -> 1.561.472 bytes
mors lille ole2 by Mr. C -> 1.540.736 bytes
baselove by Ambience -> 1.530.424 bytes
feel_me(&_my world) by Mr. C -> 1.512.454 bytes

We have 194 MODs (read protracker and the like - no STK), that have a size bigger than 1.000.000 bytes.

that was fun :)
Sylvain

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Re: Top 10 Largest ProTracker modules ever made!
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2012, 12:08:08 »
I`ve launched my A1200 without S-S started PT2.3d and PT3.62. PT2.3d says 1966K free and PT3.62 says 1769K chip. So corona-part2 by Spacebrain -> 1.840.824 bytes should fit to load. Mods above 2MB should be playable with mod players that support fast-ram.

Do have someone experiences with PT on WinUAE? I read that you can set 8MB chip-ram on WinUAE. Recognizes/support PT the 8MB?