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Axxy:

--- Quote ---"MOD.system violation.lng" is the same as "MOD.mystikal!-vibes". "MOD.system violation" is a converted rip for the same named demo.
I don't really know what to do about these, really.
I've attached all three files to this archive, if it can help decide. I've also added the respective ModInfo text files.

Ideas ?
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From a purist point of view, I'd say rename MOD.system violation.lng to MOD.mystikal!-vibes..  Only because if you actually rip it from the demo, that's what you would get.  I suppose it would then have to have Cosmos credited for the intro sfx like it does in the demo.

Mod.mystikal!-vibes could have something to denote its been edited and had the intro/sfx bypassed so it plays like a mod without the intro bit.

I'd delete the other one and leave the other 2 as is, at least you get the original rip and an edited version. Personally, I don't really want to hear the intro part, just the mod part.

swirlythingy:

--- Quote from: Asle on September 11, 2012, 18:58:23 ---MOD.bubba.level5 = MOD.bubba.level6
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Whoopsy!  I can't believe I forgot that one...

--- Quote from: Asle on September 11, 2012, 18:58:23 ---MOD.(Wonder Dog)game complete = MOD.bubba.title
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I didn't even know about that one!  Sure enough, they're identical.

This sort of thing is exactly why I chose to focus on Spaceman first, because he really was a terrible one for self-plagiarism.  How can you know which one was composed first?  And does it matter, really?  If someone was looking to download the complete Wonder Dog soundtrack, is it reasonable to expect them to know to look for "bubba.title"?

And that's why I think the AMP database needs a way to relate tracks to each other, to highlight tracks where you probably don't want to download both of them, but they're sufficiently different that you can't justify deleting either.  "mystikal!-vibes" and "system violation" would benefit from this as well.

Oh well, here's a couple from Subject (or Prophet, as he's known on AMP):

"private justice" > "alien inspiration" (slight sequence difference and truncated samples)
=> latter one is gone (converted rip)

"tp5'95" ~ "lifetime" (seems to be a later revision)

"guitarmag3" ~ "upstream.work" (unfinished, with different samples)

"gatecrashing" ~ "gatecrashing4" (dodgy rip, slight sequence difference)
=> latter one is gone (converted rip)

What does DFC mean, BTW?

Axxy:

--- Quote ---What does DFC mean, BTW?
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Direct From Composer i think?

Axxy:
MOD.elixir by marc <> MOD.elixir by marvin
=> latter is gone (was a P61A converted, wrongly credited to Marvin, like in the mag)

Mr. Death
MOD.ganja oracle <> MOD.oldschool combat 3
=> removed the first with the fancy title (files are otherwise identical)

Asle:

--- Quote from: swirlythingy on September 12, 2012, 14:40:58 ---This sort of thing is exactly why I chose to focus on Spaceman first, because he really was a terrible one for self-plagiarism.  How can you know which one was composed first?  And does it matter, really?  If someone was looking to download the complete Wonder Dog soundtrack, is it reasonable to expect them to know to look for "bubba.title"?

And that's why I think the AMP database needs a way to relate tracks to each other, to highlight tracks where you probably don't want to download both of them, but they're sufficiently different that you can't justify deleting either.  "mystikal!-vibes" and "system violation" would benefit from this as well.
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For games, I think it's a no brainer. even identical files are kept, if only for historical/audit reasons, as, again, AMP aims to be a repository of some sort. So, we tend to keep everything :).

The relation between musics is an idea that will need major revamp of the DB. As is, there's simply no way to do that. We do have a 'comment' field available (although not yet displayed and scarcely fed) where that kind of link could go. It's an unsatisfactory solution but at least it's one. This, however, points to the serious lack of "admins" on AMP. I'm basically running things around here, with uneven help from others, when it comes to that kind of things.
I'm not complaining, mind. Just, as it is, there's not enough man power to do anything but upload some musics and fix a few mistakes from time to time.


--- Quote from: Axxy on September 12, 2012, 16:30:28 ---
--- Quote ---What does DFC mean, BTW?
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Direct From Composer i think?

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Exactly :)

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