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Amiga Music => Music Request => Topic started by: Asle on July 16, 2014, 23:30:23

Title: PC productions to rip
Post by: Asle on July 16, 2014, 23:30:23
All right guys, there's some PC production I've been storing at home for later ripping (if possible). At the time I stored them, I tried to rip the music but failed for whatever reason, or simply didn't take the time to handle them.
I'm listing some of those here mainly to clear up my storage :) Also, maybe someone had a go at some of those and will save me the trouble .. heh

I'll update when needed depending on feedback. I'll add more also in time.


Prostate by AstroideA
http://demozoo.org/productions/29150/
- unknown format

CPH's Microbial Illusion #2
https://www.scene.org/file.php?file=%2Fdemos%2Fgroups%2Fcoolphat%2Fcph%21mic2.zip&fileinfo

201408060: all sent by Deus-Ex and availablein today's update (http://amp.dascene.net/added.php?sub=mus&type=d&dd=2014-08-06)

Difference
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=19596
- unknown format

Drastic Scream
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=51597
- AMF (need AMF2S3M)

Expoze
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=12300
- CBA - need CBA2S3M

A-Doggi Dog mag
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=32599

20140808: now ripped (FST here (http://amp.dascene.net/downmod.php?index=135277))

Fruits by Exhumers
http://demozoo.org/productions/29152/

20140719: now ripped (S3M here (http://amp.dascene.net/downmod.php?index=135011))

Tales From The Grave
http://demozoo.org/productions/9414/
- UN04

Hardcode musicdisk
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=57574
- unknown format

Inferno by Pentagon
http://demozoo.org/productions/48022/
- unknown format

Tiny Tunes by JFF
http://demozoo.org/productions/8900/

20140811: all were already online save one found in a Diet sub file (MOD.mais non (http://amp.dascene.net/downmod.php?index=135373)). Thanks to Deus-Ex for help :)

Wired Invitation by Kloon
http://demozoo.org/productions/101961/
- unknown format

Marshmellow Dream by Intra
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=58332

20140815 : all GDM converted back to S3M are in today's additions (http://amp.dascene.net/added.php?sub=mus&type=d&dd=2014-08-15). Look for Bishop's musics in the list.

Nothing On by Renaissance
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=13024
- altered MTM

Age Of Stars by Realtech
http://demozoo.org/productions/10122/
- AMF need AMF2S3M and AMF2MOD

Alien Conspiracy by Realtech
http://demozoo.org/productions/10123/
- AMF need AMF2S3M and AMF2MOD

Corinne Dreams by Realtech
http://demozoo.org/productions/10126/
- AMF need AMF2S3M and AMF2MOD

Beyond
http://demozoo.org/productions/9887/
- MXM

S!P musicdisk
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=6474
- unknown format

Warm Place by NightRadio
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=52837
- altered FST
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: Axxy on July 17, 2014, 16:52:16
The 3 Realtech MD' i've had for years, kept them in the AMF format as they seem to play ok in modplug. Maybe Milkytracker can do a better job of converting them. Still a couple of seemed garbled but play somewhat better in milkytracker.


Tales from the Grave
Seems to play ok in milkytracker. Probably never kept them back then as there as nothing that would play or convert them?

Tiny Tunes
A few chiptunes by Benji, Axel and Rez (didn't have those)... :)


Marshmellow Dreams
Looks like the .GDM play ok in Milkytracker, only tried a couple..


Difference, Inferno & Nothing On
Unpacked the executables but didn't find anything. Not sure if the modules in these haven't been released as standalone modules as I noticed Ryan Cramer' Geometric Shadows in the Renaissance one.


No download link working for Drastic Scream.  All the others, beyond me.

And, I like that Speckdrumm musicdisk, some very nice .it modules from Omega in that one. Wonder if they have been ripped yet or released elsewhere?
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: deus-ex on July 17, 2014, 22:17:06
Expoze
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=12300
- unknown format

From the file Expoze.nfo, included in the distribution:

*.cba  -  The music files in the Heretics CBA format
             (CBA stands for Chuck Biscuits/Black Artist)


The .CBA format is actually supported by MilkyTracker. I asked/helped Pailes (author of MilkyTracker) back then to implement it.
The modules included in the production and their artists are as follows.
Code: [Select]
File Titel Artist
 ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
 Aftermix.cba After Sunset - MDisk Mix Jase
 Endlsleg.cba Endless Legacy Myzer
 Expointr.cba Journey's beginning Chuck Biscuits
    Icftb.cba I can feel the Beat Hunz
   Mirage.cba Mirage - Lightspeed II Void
  Mychild.cba My Child Jedi
  Ntrance.cba N'Trance Maral
  Panoram.cba Panoramica Chuck Biscuits
 Reactive.cba Reactivate Force Format
  Release.cba Release me saNe
 Virtuous.cba Virtuous Reason FireLight
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: deus-ex on July 17, 2014, 22:23:50
The 3 Realtech MD' i've had for years, kept them in the AMF format as they seem to play ok in modplug. Maybe Milkytracker can do a better job of converting them. Still a couple of seemed garbled but play somewhat better in milkytracker.

Definitely MilkyTracker offers the best support for the AMF format by Otto Chrons. Pailes (MilkyTracker author) released a AMF2MOD converter back then which was already quite good but lacked support for all the iterations of the AMF format. AMF support then was considerably improved and implemented into MilkyTracker.

NOTE: Support for Otto Chrons AMF format is broken in MikyTracker v0.90.85/86, but works fine in v0.90.80. You can download it from MODLAND:

Code: [Select]
ftp://ftp.modland.com/pub/software/trackers/Windows/MilkyTracker/old%20versions/MilkyTracker%20v0.90.80%20Win9x%20&%20WinNT.7z
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: deus-ex on July 17, 2014, 22:27:03
Difference
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=19596
- unknown format

Check folder pub/modules/Fasttracker/Cybelius/ at MODLAND for the tracks. ;)
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: Axxy on July 17, 2014, 22:29:37
Quote
From the file Expoze.nfo, included in the distribution:

*.cba  -  The music files in the Heretics CBA format
             (CBA stands for Chuck Biscuits/Black Artist)

Oops, forgot this one.  I have most of these in .xm format apart from 2 in .mod format and 1 as .s3m.  No idea who ripped them originally but "converted" placed in file which is not visible in player.
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: Axxy on July 17, 2014, 22:35:54
Quote
Check folder pub/modules/Fasttracker/Cybelius/ at MODLAND for the tracks.

Thanks, just checked these out. I already have these mostly in .s3m format, 2 or 3 in ftm/mod format.
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: Asle on July 18, 2014, 20:23:14
Expoze
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=12300
- unknown format

From the file Expoze.nfo, included in the distribution:

*.cba  -  The music files in the Heretics CBA format
             (CBA stands for Chuck Biscuits/Black Artist)


The .CBA format is actually supported by MilkyTracker. I asked/helped Pailes (author of MilkyTracker) back then to implement it.
The modules included in the production and their artists are as follows.
I see. however, it's obvious the originals are S3M, thus, Milkytracker, while loading those correctly, still loses some letters in sample text (I just checked). Is there a chance a CBA->S3M proggy exists ?
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: Asle on July 18, 2014, 20:25:44
The 3 Realtech MD' i've had for years, kept them in the AMF format as they seem to play ok in modplug. Maybe Milkytracker can do a better job of converting them. Still a couple of seemed garbled but play somewhat better in milkytracker.

Definitely MilkyTracker offers the best support for the AMF format by Otto Chrons. Pailes (MilkyTracker author) released a AMF2MOD converter back then which was already quite good but lacked support for all the iterations of the AMF format. AMF support then was considerably improved and implemented into MilkyTracker.
same remark as for CBA. Is there (didn't check) and AMF->S3M proggy anywhere ?
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: deus-ex on July 18, 2014, 20:40:42
Is there a chance a CBA->S3M proggy exists ?

I'm afraid the answer is no. Hence I was quite exited when Pailes agreed to add support for this format to MilkyTracker so I'm able to listen to the tunes outside of the Expoze musicdisk application.
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: deus-ex on July 18, 2014, 20:45:30
same remark as for CBA. Is there (didn't check) and AMF->S3M proggy anywhere ?

I'm afraid the answer is... yes (hahaha). Though this converter has its flaws. Find it (MSDOS application) attached to this post.
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: Asle on July 19, 2014, 10:29:58
Difference
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=19596
- unknown format

Check folder pub/modules/Fasttracker/Cybelius/ at MODLAND for the tracks. ;)
I will. I guess it's direct from composer ?
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: Asle on July 19, 2014, 10:32:24
same remark as for CBA. Is there (didn't check) and AMF->S3M proggy anywhere ?

I'm afraid the answer is... yes (hahaha). Though this converter has its flaws. Find it (MSDOS application) attached to this post.
Great. will try that later ! thanks :)
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: Asle on July 19, 2014, 10:33:26
Is there a chance a CBA->S3M proggy exists ?

I'm afraid the answer is no. Hence I was quite exited when Pailes agreed to add support for this format to MilkyTracker so I'm able to listen to the tunes outside of the Expoze musicdisk application.
All right. then another question. Do you know if this format is described anywhere ?
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: deus-ex on July 19, 2014, 12:31:00
I guess it's direct from composer ?

This I do not know, hence there's a chance these are conversions, too.
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: deus-ex on July 19, 2014, 12:44:13
Do you know if this format is described anywhere ?

No, not that I know of. Pailes was able to reverse engineer the format with the help of a few original modules I provided to him. Perhaps he provided some details in the email conversation between us, but I do not have that available anymore.
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: deus-ex on July 20, 2014, 14:16:22
CPH's Microbial Illusion #2
https://www.scene.org/file.php?file=%2Fdemos%2Fgroups%2Fcoolphat%2Fcph%21mic2.zip&fileinfo
- probably common formats

Probably I just ripped them all for you (archive attached to this post). ;)
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: deus-ex on July 20, 2014, 14:57:21
Definitely MilkyTracker offers the best support for the AMF format by Otto Chrons. Pailes (MilkyTracker author) released a AMF2MOD converter back then which was already quite good but lacked support for all the iterations of the AMF format. AMF support then was considerably improved and implemented into MilkyTracker.

NOTE: Support for Otto Chrons AMF format is broken in MikyTracker v0.90.85/86, but works fine in v0.90.80. You can download it from MODLAND:

Code: [Select]
ftp://ftp.modland.com/pub/software/trackers/Windows/MilkyTracker/old%20versions/MilkyTracker%20v0.90.80%20Win9x%20&%20WinNT.7z

Note that I updated my previous post regarding Otto Chorns AMF format providing important information about MilkyTracker.
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: deus-ex on July 20, 2014, 15:07:04
Drastic Scream
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=51597
- AMF (need AMF2S3M)

Download link on pouet.net is broken. You can download the production via this link:
Code: [Select]
ftp://ftp.scene.org/mirrors/hornet/music/disks/1995/ds.zip
The AMF modules are also available at MODLAND:
Code: [Select]
ftp://ftp.modland.com/pub/modules/Digital%20Sound%20And%20Music%20Interface/Soundwave
EDIT: updated description for production download link
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: deus-ex on July 20, 2014, 15:25:41
A-Doggi Dog mag
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=32599
- GDM

Original module also available here:
Code: [Select]
ftp://ftp.modland.com/pub/modules/General%20DigiMusic/BoogieMannen/digitall%20kangaroo.gdm
Converted tune attached to this post.

EDIT: fixed ftp download link
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: deus-ex on July 20, 2014, 15:56:11
Tales From The Grave
http://demozoo.org/productions/9414/
- UN04

All modules except for one are available in Fasttracker 2 format on MODLAND:
Code: [Select]
ftp://ftp.modland.com/pub/modules/Fasttracker%202/Grave%20(FI)
Find the ripped .uni modules (MikMod Unitrk) attached below. MilkyTracker crashes attempting to convert "empty heart.uni" and "maybe some day.uni", the others do work fine.
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: deus-ex on July 20, 2014, 16:23:12
Inferno by Pentagon
http://demozoo.org/productions/48022/
- unknown format

The format used in the production is called ZZPlay, a Gravis Ultrasound only MOD player coded by Zwerg Zwack.

The original Fasttracker modules are available at MODLAND:
Code: [Select]
ftp://ftp.modland.com/pub/modules/Fasttracker/Silent%20Mode
1: Inferno          
2: Infinite Dreams  
3: Plastic Dream    
4: Classic Illusion  
5: Forever (for Tina)
6: Nocturne          
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: deus-ex on July 20, 2014, 16:35:08
Tiny Tunes by JFF
http://demozoo.org/productions/8900/
- unknown format

No unknown format here, the executable is compressed with WWPACK. Find the ripped modules attached to this post.
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: deus-ex on July 20, 2014, 17:35:23
Wired Invitation by Kloon
http://demozoo.org/productions/101961/
- unknown format

The executable is compressed with Pro-Pack v2.08 and the production uses the DOS extender DOS32 by Adam Seychell which uses a compression sheme for the LE (linear executable).
The format of the module in this party invitation is .mxm (Cubic Tiny GUS XM).

The original module is available in Fasttracker 2 format at MODLAND:
Code: [Select]
ftp://ftp.modland.com/pub/modules/Fasttracker%202/Kenet/intend.xm
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: deus-ex on July 20, 2014, 19:25:56
Age Of Stars by Realtech
http://demozoo.org/productions/10122/
- AMF need AMF2S3M and AMF2MOD

Ripped modules attached to this post.
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: deus-ex on July 20, 2014, 19:35:28
Alien Conspiracy by Realtech
http://demozoo.org/productions/10123/
- AMF need AMF2S3M and AMF2MOD

Ripped modules attached to this post.
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: deus-ex on July 20, 2014, 19:41:25
Corinne Dreams by Realtech
http://demozoo.org/productions/10126/
- AMF need AMF2S3M and AMF2MOD

Ripped modules attached to this post.
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: deus-ex on July 20, 2014, 19:50:22
Beyond
http://demozoo.org/productions/9887/
- MXM

Ripped & converted module attached to this post.
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: deus-ex on July 20, 2014, 20:15:30
S!P musicdisk
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=6474
- unknown format

I don't think there's a unknown format used, according to the table found at the end of file speckdrumm.dat the following modules ought to be included:

Code: [Select]
Omega_-_Beyond_The_Sun.it
Omega_-_Demons_Gate.it
Omega_-_Luzifer.it
Omega_-_Mindstream.it
Omega_-_Planet_X-tatica_IV.it
Omega_-_Stomping_Elefants.it
Omega_-_The_Factory_(2nd_Version).it
Omega_-_The_Inner_Circle.xm
Omega_-_The_Jungle_Move.xm
Omega_-_The_Machine.xm
Omega_-_The_Mind.it
Omega_-_The_Sphere.it
Omega_-_Vampyres_-_The_Dream.it

Though I was not able to rip them. The modules are stored inside speckdrumm.dat using a unique compression sheme, on playback the files are not expanded to memory like usual.
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: Axxy on July 22, 2014, 12:11:56
Now I can see everything you've ripped, I have now checked and I already have most of them. :(

Quote
Tales From The Grave

Find the ripped .uni modules (MikMod Unitrk) attached below. MilkyTracker crashes attempting to convert "empty heart.uni" and "maybe some day.uni", the others do work fine.

I remember this one now. Empty Heart will work in MilkyTracker  (took several attempts) as I already have done it. The other one still remains unprocessed because MT can't load it properly, maybe some day! /hehe


Quote
CPH's Microbial Illusion #2

Missed this one. I have a few of these modules but not ripped from this production. Nice..
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: Asle on August 05, 2014, 22:02:29
CPH's Microbial Illusion #2
https://www.scene.org/file.php?file=%2Fdemos%2Fgroups%2Fcoolphat%2Fcph%21mic2.zip&fileinfo
- probably common formats

Probably I just ripped them all for you (archive attached to this post). ;)
I know I'm late, but mega thanks. On my way to add those !
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: Asle on August 05, 2014, 22:07:31
you guys are great. man, I lost track of all those nice answers.
I'll try to catch up !

Thanks again :D

Oh and on a side note, Open Modplug _does_ load GDM files correctly _and_ proposes to save them ALSO correctly in their initial format ! .. woaw. Thanks Saga Musix ! I'll ask if MikMod is planned at all (UN04 and UN05).
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: deus-ex on August 06, 2014, 21:27:19
I'll ask if MikMod is planned at all (UN04 and UN05).

The MilkyTracker (http://www.milkytracker.org/?download) source code might be useful to the task as it contains a loader for MikMod UNIversal modules.
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: Asle on August 06, 2014, 22:55:50
indeed : https://github.com/Deltafire/MilkyTracker/blob/master/src/milkyplay/LoaderUNI.cpp
c++ .. hum .. Maybe that far better than nothing :)
Title: Re: PC productions to rip
Post by: Asle on August 08, 2014, 18:08:01
A-Doggi Dog mag
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=32599
- GDM

Original module also available here:
Code: [Select]
ftp://ftp.modland.com/pub/modules/General%20DigiMusic/BoogieMannen/digitall%20kangaroo.gdm
Converted tune attached to this post.

EDIT: fixed ftp download link
OK, so, it's originally a 8CHN FastTracker 1. Confirmed technically and with OpenMPT.